Sustainable biofuels to run commercial jets

Graeme
1 week ago • Sunday 2010-01-31 14:02:00 • Reply

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Qatar Airways and Qatar Petroleum announced a joint effort, supported by Airbus, to develop, produce and supply a sustainable bio jet fuel.

The partners, who last year completed a feasibility study of a sustainable Biomass-to-Liquid (BTL) jet fuel with US company Verno Systems say they can produce a biofuel without affecting food or fresh-water supplies.

“By entering into the production and supply of bio jet fuels, we will be able to get closer and closer to carbon neutral growth,” said Qatar Airways CEP Akbar al Baker.

A second consortium of airlines have also announced similar plans, with Masdar, Boeing, Honeywell’s UOP and Etihad Airways developing and producing biofuels.

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Tanada
2 days ago • Sunday 2010-02-07 18:23:00 • Reply

Given the huge energy investment it takes to produce biofuels is flying all over really the best way to use them? I know people will do whatever they want, but all the way back when Henry Ford was making Model T cars there were plans for biofuels to supply the needs of the agricultural sector. That use makes sense to me, if you grow your fuel on the farm it is rather like feeding your oxen or mules from your own farm which adds to the security of the food supply. Using the fuel for aircraft does the exact opposite IMO.

Graeme
1 day ago • Monday 2010-02-08 13:01:00 • Reply

Engineers Aim to Make Air Travel Greener

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Carbon emissions from air travel could be reduced thanks to a new collaboration between engineers from the Universities of Bath and Bristol and the aerospace industry.

The £1.4 million project will investigate new ways of using composite materials for wing panels in aircraft.

The research, funded by the Engineering & Physical Sciences Research Council (EPSRC) and aircraft manufacturers Airbus and GKN, will be using carbon fibres that are curved within flat plates to produce damage-tolerant, buckle-free structures.

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Phildo
1 day ago • Monday 2010-02-08 23:09:00 • Reply

Tanada wrote:

Given the huge energy investment it takes to produce biofuels is flying all over really the best way to use them? I know people will do whatever they want, but all the way back when Henry Ford was making Model T cars there were plans for biofuels to supply the needs of the agricultural sector. That use makes sense to me, if you grow your fuel on the farm it is rather like feeding your oxen or mules from your own farm which adds to the security of the food supply. Using the fuel for aircraft does the exact opposite IMO.

Good analysis -- but this is about chasing the dollar. No sense needed. Just money. Folks with money tend to like flying. Even the knucklleheaded Heads of "Big Auto" made that mistake when going to Congress to grift . . . . er, ah ask . . .. for money. Flew when any PR person could have told them to Car Pool in one of their Crap-Mobiles.

Now if you trace through any successful business model, it always begins with -- The Customer Must Have Money. Folks flying tend to have money, especially ones with all important private jets. So who do we serve? Them or US? Certainly not farmers. :-D

So really America ought to stand on a street corner with a sign that says "Will Be Stupid -- For Money." Pretty much what we do. :-D

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