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Book: "Eco-hysterics and the technophobes" by Petr Beckmann

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Vogelzang
10 weeks ago • Friday 2009-11-27 15:54:00 • Reply
pstarr wrote:
basil_hayden wrote:
Fe-TAML will take care of these types of problems soon.

They're trying to figure out how to make it by the ton instead of by the gram.
How many trillions (really really rhetorical big used to be measured in billions--times change) of tons would be needed to clean the planet?


The planet is made of dirt.

Ludi
10 weeks ago • Friday 2009-11-27 17:27:00 • Reply
Vogelzang wrote:
The planet is made of dirt.



If by "dirt" you mean "soil" no it isn't. There's very little soil on the planet compared to other materials.


Vogelzang
10 weeks ago • Saturday 2009-11-28 17:13:00 • Reply
---> http://www.ijvs.com/volume1/edition2/se ... l#feature3

http://sciliterature.50webs.com/Climate.htm

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Vogelzang
9 weeks ago • Tuesday 2009-12-01 16:32:00 • Reply
Proof fish want to be eaten

This video shows how fish knowing that their true purpose in life is to act as food for mankind gladly throw themselves into fishermens' boats.

http://www.youfish.us/fish/mediadetails ... HING+CRAZY

Vogelzang
9 weeks ago • Sunday 2009-12-06 16:40:00 • Reply
Check out these videos about a man, woman and baby living in the woods. Some scenes show the man eating worms and snails. Is this how the misanthropes want us to live? It might work until the parasitic worms slowly turn your body into Swiss cheese.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHTaAJt235A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0VRkxn81Pk

Serial_Worrier
6 weeks ago • Monday 2009-12-28 14:22:00 • Reply
Vogelzang wrote:
Check out these videos about a man, woman and baby living in the woods. Some scenes show the man eating worms and snails. Is this how the misanthropes want us to live? It might work until the parasitic worms slowly turn your body into Swiss cheese.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHTaAJt235A and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0VRkxn81Pk
The enivro-freaks have this hatred of modern civilization yet LACK the courage to go live in the woods and eat snails. They are scared to DEATH of getting sick and can't live without modern medicine at their beck and call. Not to mention a late night run to 7-11.

Ludi
6 weeks ago • Tuesday 2009-12-29 04:16:00 • Reply
Serial_Worrier wrote:
The enivro-freaks have this hatred of modern civilization yet LACK the courage to go live in the woods and eat snails.
The old "you want everyone to go live in caves" cliche. :roll:

It's true, we often don't want to eat snails. There may be another choice between civilization and "living in the woods eating snails" though.

Just sayin'. :)


hillsidedigger
6 weeks ago • Tuesday 2009-12-29 05:30:00 • Reply
A low impact lifestyle does not imply eating snails.

Ludi
6 weeks ago • Tuesday 2009-12-29 05:41:00 • Reply
hillsidedigger wrote:
A low impact lifestyle does not imply eating snails.

Some people find snails to be haute cuisine.

Escargot a La Bourguignonne
1 cup soft butter
1/4 cup finely chopped parsley
2 shallots, finely chopped
1 clove garlic, finely chopped
2 tablespoons brandy
32 snails

Preheat the oven to 350 deg. F. Combine the butter, parsley, shallots, garlic, and brandy in a bowl and blend well. Fill each snail cavity with the seasoned butter. Place on a baking pan and bake for twelve minutes.
Serve hot, as an appetizer, on individual snail dishes or on small folded napkins on plates, to keep the shells from sliding about.


Vogelzang
5 weeks ago • Wednesday 2009-12-30 18:00:00 • Reply
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paimei01
5 weeks ago • Tuesday 2010-01-05 05:38:00 • Reply
http://www.chinahush.com/2009/10/21/ama ... -in-china/
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20. Anhui Province Cihu Chemical Industry District built a underground pipe to discharge wastewater into the Yangtze River. The wastewater sometimes is black, gray, dark red, or yellow, wastewater from different chemical factories has different colors. June 18, 2009

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26. Breathing in large amount of dust into the lungs, people gets sick after working there for 1-2 years. Most of these migrant workers come from area of poverty. April 10, 2005

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All that "industrial effort". And for what ? For this empty city ? link
Madness. Do you know why people don't use the city they built ? Because they are low on their numbers - stored on some hard disk in some dungeon. (90% of money are electronic money). So - being low on those important numbers, the city stays empty, and people fight each other - for a place to do what you see above. The system has them convinced "if you don't build cruise ships and empty cities - there is not enough rice for you !" Some say - "there is not enough for all". Of course there is. Destroy the f... hard disk, forget about "numbers" - build what you need, use it, stop working if you don;t need.

At least if we would destroy the planet - having fun. Somehow - caught in our own party, at least having fun when doing this. But - who does not hate his job ? Maybe 10% - and what they do usually depends on - what you see above.

Or destroy it for "us" - like: "we are going to make sure everyone has a villa and a Mercedes by the end of the year !!! Get to work !" I would like to participate in something like that - knowing there is a "us" I help everyday. (not necessarily for a villa and a Mercedes)
But no. See here : [url=http://www.storyofstuff.com/]link[url]
Gospel of consumption

Yes - the same old links I use to throw around, Using the propaganda technique of :"spam"


Vogelzang
4 weeks ago • Wednesday 2010-01-06 09:22:00 • Reply
We can do better than China. The peak of conventional oil is being pushed further into the future. Only the strong survive! Vote Republican and be a capitalist!

Cramped on Land, Big Oil Bets at Sea
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1262649 ... st_Popular

Drill, Baby, Drill: Does Virginia’s Gov-Elect’s Call For Offshore Drilling Add Up?
http://blogs.wsj.com/environmentalcapit ... ng-add-up/

Vogelzang
3 weeks ago • Monday 2010-01-18 07:18:00 • Reply
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Nation's Snowmen March Against Global Warming

efarmer
3 weeks ago • Monday 2010-01-18 17:14:00 • Reply
Vogelzang, don't you dare ever feel like you have to hide behind your mentor,
Alfred E. Neuman never saw the day when he could think outside of the box to
put a string of pearls like this thread together. I understood much of it, and I scared
the piss out me once I realized that I did. The worm eating guy was just a teaser
for the deeper subliminal stuff, right?

Keep up the treatment, I feel if I can rack enough of this up, digest the odd
morsel here and there, and ruminate the fibrous chunks and lumps to where
I pass them before the methane blows my carcass asunder, I shall meet thee
on the high plateau, where the still water runs deep, and Palin slays the moose.
We are truth and light, trapped for awhile within these earthly bounds of mortal meat.
Efarmer

pstarr
3 weeks ago • Monday 2010-01-18 20:35:00 • Reply
efarmer wrote:
Vogelzang, don't you dare ever feel like you have to hide behind your mentor, Alfred E. Neuman never saw the day when he could think outside of the box to
put a string of pearls like this thread together. We are truth and light, trapped for awhile within these earthly bounds of mortal meat.
Vogelburger has no idea what that was about. Nada. I don't either?

Pretorian
3 weeks ago • Tuesday 2010-01-19 00:17:00 • Reply
Ludi wrote:
Vogelzang wrote:
The planet is made of dirt.
If by "dirt" you mean "soil" no it isn't. There's very little soil on the planet compared to other materials.
He actually meant "filth" , pay attention

efarmer
2 weeks ago • Wednesday 2010-01-20 09:30:00 • Reply
Sorry Vogelzang, I thought I understood the thread and had gotten into the groove
only to find out upon peer review by Pstarr that I had gotten a sniff of swamp gas
and decided to write about it.

I recently attended a wedding reception and did every dance step I ever thought I
knew during one song on the dance floor while my relatives protected their feet
and stood around the edges of the dance floor with revulsion. I had a load of fun,
and I broke a sweat, but I couldn't explain this afterwards either.

I know you are making killer points, and I now know I am missing them somehow,
I will try not to shoot off into the weeds and louse up a swell thread again.

Efarmer

rangerone314
2 weeks ago • Wednesday 2010-01-20 09:39:00 • Reply
Vogelzang wrote:
Check out these videos about a man, woman and baby living in the woods. Some scenes show the man eating worms and snails. Is this how the misanthropes want us to live? It might work until the parasitic worms slowly turn your body into Swiss cheese.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHTaAJt235A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0VRkxn81Pk



Check this out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman


Pretorian
2 weeks ago • Wednesday 2010-01-20 10:09:00 • Reply
Vogelzang wrote:
Check out these videos about a man, woman and baby living in the woods. Some scenes show the man eating worms and snails. Is this how the misanthropes want us to live? It might work until the parasitic worms slowly turn your body into Swiss cheese.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHTaAJt235A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0VRkxn81Pk



I dont know about worms, but snails are absolutely delicious. Not that I've heard of a parasite that you can get by eating snails, but 2-3 cloves of garlic a day will choke any worm. But then again you might complain about the smell.

Vogelzang
1 week ago • Thursday 2010-01-28 16:22:00 • Reply
Father of Gaia says green movement is a bogus money scheme
http://www.examiner.com/x-1586-Baltimor ... ney-scheme

Vogelzang
1 day ago • Monday 2010-02-08 08:50:00 • Reply
OK, all you wackjob genocide plotters, take that!
You will be defeated in the next election.

'We've been had!' Indian Magazine Rips Global Warming: 'The Hottest Hoax in the World...A pack of lies, it turns out'
http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/ ... -the-world

Inconveniently for the experts, global warming is a con
THE lies, the untruths, the paranoid statements, the political point-scoring, the abuse of power, the secretive communications and the cover-ups - not to mention the huge cost to the taxpayer.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepag ... a-con.html

Global warming science implodes overseas: American media silent
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/201 ... plode.html

Summit in Argentina: 'There is no science to support that global warming is going to happen'
http://www.climatedepot.com/a/5158/Flas ... -to-happen

Mag.: 'The climate change fraud that is now unraveling is unprecedented in its deceit, unmatched in scope, akin to 9 on the Richter scale' Claim: 'The student dissertation the IPCC used in AR4 doesn't even support their claims'
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/31/a ... e-concern/

Close up photo of India’s Open Magazine Climate 'Fraud' cover
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rqH4fUbko2U/S ... gazine.jpg

Indian Mag. Ridicules Pachauri: 'His degree and training is in railroad engineering. You read it right. This man was educated to make railroads from point A to point B'
http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/ ... -the-world

UK Telegraph: Time Running out for UN IPCC: 'The most expensive show the world has ever seen may soon be nearing its end'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/colu ... lures.html

'The scare is over!' -- Declares Lord Monckton
http://blogs.abc.net.au/victoria/2010/0 ... group.html
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The Climate Science Isn't Settled
Confident predictions of catastrophe are unwarranted.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 25400.html

Democratic Climate Revolt
A bipartisan effort to stop the EPA's anticarbon crusade.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... el_opinion



Democratic Climate Revolt
A bipartisan effort to stop the EPA's anticarbon crusade.

The Obama Administration has been moving full-speed ahead on anticarbon regulation, never mind waiting for Congress to pass a bill. But now opposition is building among senior Democrats, with two powerful committee Chairmen introducing a bill last week to bar the Environmental Protection Agency from declaring that carbon is a dangerous pollutant.

EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson is busy writing new rules that would let her drive a tax-and-regulation bulldozer through the U.S. economy under laws never meant to apply to greenhouse gases. Ms. Jackson is expected to issue new anticarbon regulations for cars and trucks next month before moving on to power plants and other industries.

This is all too much for Missouri's Ike Skelton and Minnesota's Collin Peterson, the Chairmen of the House Armed Services and Agriculture Committees, respectively. Along with Missouri Republican Jo Ann Emerson, they are pushing a two-page bill that would amend the Clean Air Act to restore Congress's original intent and strip CO2 and other greenhouse gases from the statutory language.

This is bipartisanship we can believe in. Such legislation would vaporize the EPA's "endangerment finding" for carbon and thus require the Administration to use democratic debate and persuasion if it really wants to reshape the energy markets and impose huge new costs on American consumers. What a thought.

"If Congress doesn't do something soon, the EPA is going to cram these regulations through all on their own," Mr. Peterson said. "I have no confidence that EPA can regulate greenhouse gases under the Clean Air Act without severe harm to all taxpayers."

Added Mr. Skelton: "Simply put, we cannot tolerate turning over the regulation of greenhouse gas emissions to unelected bureaucrats at EPA. America's energy and environmental policies should be set by Congress." Yes, they should be.

The Skelton-Peterson-Emerson bill follows a similar effort by North Dakota Democrat Earl Pomeroy, not to mention Alaska Republican Lisa Murkowski's coming "disapproval resolution" in the Senate that has the support of Democrats Mary Landrieu, Ben Nelson and Blanche Lincoln.

Our one caveat here is that Messrs. Skelton and Peterson are doing the right thing for the wrong reason—specifically, to defend the ethanol industry. Their bill includes provisions that would expand the definition of renewable fuels and make it easier for corn ethanol and soy biodiesel to qualify for federal tax credits. This is despite the growing shelf of studies that common crop-based fuels increase carbon emissions because of land-use changes and deforestation.

In any case, Ms. Jackson released final rules last week that would allow ethanol to maintain its mandate on the U.S. fuel supply, requiring her agency to back down from the more restrictive and supposedly science-based rules that it had proposed last year. Ms. Jackson insisted that EPA wasn't "dumbing down" its regulations, but her bow to the ethanol lobby revealed the death-grip it exerts on Congress.

Yet in the case of carbon regulation—an even dumber policy—we'll take what we can get. If the power of farm-state politicians ends up stopping the EPA's global-warming power grab, it would be the first good thing ethanol has done for the country.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... lenews_wsj


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